The Integrity of Crooks

who felt ill equipped marginalized like I didn't have a chance okay and made it somehow anyway so there we go I made it here for this all right sorry from the bottom now you good that could be the intro song that is my them song okay hey there friends and welcome to becoming a boss where we usually take some time each week to talk with someone who is wrestling with a specific situation at work but today we have Crooks in the house so that's right we taking advantage of this occasion yes say you want to introduce yourselves my name is Colin Cammy and Camy and the infamous so listen you already talked to you about this but I've been thinking a lot about integrity because if you don't have it your leadership will most certainly be affected along with your relationships and even your full-blown quality of life in my opinion so my question I want to ask you is do you think integrity is and I have the best people on the podcast for this conversation because you two are some of the most highest Integrity people wait how do you say that the high integress is that a is that a word it sounds good let me just act like that's a worri I like the way it sounds nobody's going to Google it these are some of the most integrous people okay which is very kind just so you know we're married our last name is crook so she didn't just give us this nickname because we have done illegal things it is our last name correct and we are I mean a young married couple in Ministry so that's um a big compliment from you Megan to hear that that was a good clarification I probably should have added that you are not felons we're not felons you you get that name honestly your married name my married name yeah but all the suspense is just now out the window just so we're clear yeah Crooks with high integrity with high integrity I love that there it is in the title okay all right what's question my first question is do you think that Integrity is caught or taught meaning do you think that we are more likely to learn Integrity from being shown what it looks like to live a life full of Integrity or just people tell you what to do and you do it and that's how you learn things don't always answers don't always come to me this easily but I really do believe that it's caught whether it's that you catch what it looks like to live life of Integrity or you catch what it looks like to be under a leader or a parent or friend or spouse that doesn't have integrity one way or another you're catching on to what it will produce and I I believe at least from my experience that has been my motivation to walk in Integrity um even if people are telling me at one point or another I'm going to pick up on how it's benefit it or harm them and that's ultimately going to be the thing that's going to motivate me so I'd say caught yeah I would I think I would agree with that I think there are times in life where you are taught in Integrity whether it's through mistakes you've made or different situations you've been in but I think you know when you think about people in your life that have really impacted you the chances are they've had high integrity because they're true to themselves and they're true to what God has put in them and they're just living their life in a way that is respectable and that's honoring and I think some of the most the people that I've been most impacted by are some of the people with the most Integrity because they live their life with such you know respect for themselves and for the people around them and I just think that's super admirable yeah yeah let's talk about that so who do you think influenced you a lot in terms of Integrity for me even though um I had my own struggles growing up as as a teenager my parents did model uh what it was like to treat people the way that they should be treated and to care for people and to stick up for people which I think even even that specifically has lasted a really long time because like you and I were just talking about it really gets under my skin to think about a person who's being mistreated based off of Just Just For No Good Reason and and my it was because my mom she she buried that into my soul as well as don't let her so good to very important don't leave her out there oh my go so that was her thing she was so so I don't know how old I was but and and I should caveat because my mom is not abusive unless you throw trash out of the car window that's what happened I I mean I didn't know that you weren't supposed to throw whatever that's how you learned was driving and yeah so the the ability of mothers to multitask while they're driving blows my mind and I have never littered again you only have to learn that lesson once one time um yeah no than you will not be and now my mom will be very proud to know I on trash day because when they dump the trash it goes all over the place I just get my gloves and I go outside and I pick up all the do you really I can't I don't want to it's really it's not because wow you have such high integrity that's not the reason the reason is I don't want to live in a trashy neighborhood good point and and so it's not do your part yeah I don't want to live in a neighborhood that has trash everywhere okay I was just talking to somebody who has living he's living with multiple roommates right now and he was like I'm all I'm the only guy that takes out the trash and I was thinking this won't be this way forever one day you'll have your own house with the family and you'll have shared values and then you telling me this that you're on your street picking up trash I think I lied to him today never goes away never goes away never Chang the the people with high integrity out there are the ones throwing their trash away so that's true but I think for me my dad I think is is a man of integrity MH I think he has always been somebody that has been successful but has always done it the right way never cut Corners never burnt bridges in the process was always true to himself and and what he believed to be right and I think that our family and even me I think I'm living in the fruit of his integrity and I was very inspired by just the way that he lived his life by the decisions that he made were based off of man what is not just best for me but for my family and even just growing up in a Christian Home the elements of our faith that he stayed true to to never deviate from his faith right for success or for achievement I think that's where Integrity can can get tricky is because that's the first thing that we could sacrifice when we are chasing success because we just want to get there as fast and as quick as possible even if that means we're sacrificing ourselves in the process right and I never saw my dad do that he never sacrificed himself his own morals and beliefs for the achievement of his own success he was true to who God was calling him to be and his family and I think I saw that and it's impacted and it's the way that I want to lead my family yeah it's not just what is best for me how can I get success or achievement as fast as possible but what is my faith telling me and what is going to be the thing that's best for my family in the long run and so I think he exemplified integrity and in such a natural way I don't think it was something he like talked about a lot or that he you know research I think it was just who he was yeah you know and I think it was the atmosphere that he said is you know you don't lie you don't cheat you don't steal you you do things with honor and with um Valor so even when you're last name even when your last name is crook he was an accountant his father with the last name of Kook so kudos to that man that's extra funny really you have to have extra Integrity when your last name's crook you do there's there's no way around that I listened to a Freakonomics episode you guys this is a podcast called fre economics and they are economists and they explore very funny and weird things and one of the episodes was about naming your kids if you name your child a certain name does it make them more apt I've thought about this before what did they find out it's bullcorn because one of the bullcorn it's bullcorn because this is PG okay so okay call course we're calling a Bard okay yeah so one of the people that they featured on the podcast they he actually named I mean just hold on to your butts right now he named a child winner and he named a child loser the poor why would you ever do that oh no I'm not sure but they were featured on the podcast oh no and long story sh loser was very successful good for him how that works isn't it cuz there's okay there I there must be something to what people are calling you and what they speak over you has so much of an impact but nothing can override the human will I I very few things you know what I'm saying when you set your mind to it when you give it to God there are very few things that can override that so good for loser man he said my name may be a loser but he was most definitely not going to be a loser that's what I'm saying there's those people that when there's resistance they just yeah things didn't come easy to Loser telling you figured it out I get a name change immediately thank you w no question poor guy no way my name is going to be loser ever so what about you C what do you think is do you have a person that you feel like influenced your integrity I can think of a few I can think of my first boss um my first job I was a dance teacher at the dance studio that I I mean grew up grew up dancing at and I think about one of my professors I think about my parents so I I think of a multitude of people and what's really interesting to me about hearing Colin talk is like Integrity I think has a couple different aspects to it one of them being moral rightness the other one I think being wholeness right like showing up with all of you with all of where you're at and walking Integrity meaning showing up with with everything you have and giving your all to the thing in front of you wow nothing hidden nothing saved for later being able to put your name on it look somebody in the eyes and give it your all even if maybe that version maybe if it wasn't perfect it was all of you in that moment right and so when I think about the different people that have influenced me and and and some of them I saw pieces being left out right the lack of fullness right maybe something's being hidden and and I it always catches up to people right like you see the way in people's lives where it doesn't mean that they're not absolutely killing it in these areas that they're not gifted that they're not smart that they're not great people or even great leaders in certain aspects when Integrity is missing I just haven't ever seen it not catch up to a person one way or another yeah and then in the opposite sense I see the way that there's favor on people lives in the long run when they walk in Integrity even if they don't know all the things yet right to show up with like hey this is where I'm at I'm giving it my all I'm being the best Steward of what I feel like God's giving me I just see different favor and Grace on their life in the long run on their business on their family on their marriage when things could be broken and and so that's always stuck with me I think about some of those people and now in my own job and moments where I might be tempted to say okay it's not 100% my responsibility so I'll just give a little bit to it and say it'll work out I'm motivated ated to walk in Integrity to bring my whole self to say is my name on it I'm going to give it all I have morally um but with all of me like what parts of me are divided what parts of my motives are divided how can I address that to show up with Integrity wow um so the people in my life that I can think of I've seen either favor or or a lack of favor on their life or their business ultimately and that's what stood out wow yeah which I think where your first question came from I I think that's why it stuck with me is cuz I just watched it played out I don't know that people like can you walk in Integrity I didn't grow up in that kind of family I mean I grew up we didn't even grow up in church in the same way so it was less should for me MH it was more that I kind of just watched things unfold differently for different people but that was a common denominator yeah well I had a close someone who was really close to me even grew up in the church I mean in the church Tuesday Wednesday Friday Sunday all in it that was me and as well as Colin and the mom was very did not did not carry the type of Integrity that you said I mean it it ain't just because of church I'll tell you because this the the mom actually displayed quite the opposite even though she was in church six days a week so and imagine what that did to his perspective I bet it it probably sent that message and as a young child he's getting this message well you go to church and you don't live with integrity that's what Christians are all about so that makes me so sad all the time right yeah yeah I also think living with Integrity I love how you put it it's there's just a special favor in it c a special blessing that's on you but I think when you live your life with Integrity it's also the most fulfilling way to live your life because if I get everything that I dreamed of and did it the wrong way when I get it I'm going to be like man that was all for nothing right I have have no one I have I have I sacrifice all the things that were important but I think when you live your life with integrity and and you trust God and you do the right things and you every day you show up wholeheartedly and give everything to what's in front of you that there's just such a sense of personal fulfillment that comes from living your life that way and I think that's one of the things I've notice about integrity is it's so fulfilling to to not just achieve or succeed or go through life but when you do it and you're true to who you are and you give your all to it so much fulfillment can come from that it's the thing that stays with you yeah stays with you we we've had all these influences in our lives which have helped to shape how we think of integrity and I am reading Atomic habits have you read that y right James Clear I think I can see it the author I can see his name on there I see the book cover I wouldn't I can't bet on the last name I am I am C what's his name clear James Clear okay there you go thank you to the peanut gallery over there we're grateful for um so anyway one of the things that he was talking about he's always talking about habits because the book is called Atomic habits and he mentions that and I'm so early in the book but I'm really loving it so far and one of the things he talks about is how the people around you are so highly influential to how you behave behavior is attached to habits habits are attached to yeah and I mean he's using light examples such as I not that this is light but if you are around people who are gaining weight then you will also gain weight not that you for sure will it's just that the odds of it are higher because of the people that you surround yourself with but that also works to your Advantage so when you have this great example of integrity and then you are drawn to this is where unconscious bias actually works to our favor great right because you're drawn to people who then also have integrity and then your people all have integrity and it's just going to perpetuate yeah so I thought wow I really need to fascinating yeah I need to think about that and what I think is cool about that too is it can be easy to and maybe I'm wrong I actually be curious to hear your guys's thoughts here because I think sometimes we could slap a label of Integrity on a person and say oh this person just has Integrity as if it's like a personality trait it's like their middle name and I don't know that that's always true I think we have opportunities to show up with all of ourselves to to show up and and make decisions with righteousness and and good faith and Consciousness every single day and so what I love about being around people who walk in Integrity is that there are going to be moments where we have the option to not right to need based out of comfort instead of you know what would be the best choice fear correct correct like all the the ways that we're temped to especially for in leadership to make decisions out of fear so far surrounded by people who more often than not are convicted to walk uprightly and to walk with Integrity in all of those moments where we're tempted to make decisions based off so many motives will most likely be pushed in the right direction yeah well I also think that you know Integrity is felt like when whenever you're talking with somebody or your making a decision or you're trying to figure out what to do you can feel when somebody has mixed motives you can feel when somebody is like okay that seems self- serving that seems off I think I look at Integrity as like a compass and and a way that it can point me in a direction to live my life where you you know in some conversations you can just tell some people have have mixed motives and I think Integrity isn't always something that is seen with your eyes but I think it's felt and I think you can feel when the people around you are choosing to live their life with Integrity or they're not and so but I think at the end of the day you can see the decisions that people's makes and and the decisions they choose but before you ever see it like you'll you'll feel it that absolutely leaks we see that a lot right like leadership leaks or whatever but I think I think that that leaks too and so to the you know the quote about do as I say not as I do how that's just never going to work I think it's one of those things with Integrity is like we're it's going to leak off of who we're under and the people that we're around and that will ultimately motivate people to be like Ah that's not the person I want to be listening to or in business with or in relationship with when motives are mixed like that yeah mixed motives play a big part in Integrity I think that makes sense yeah I was actually trying to track down because I knew that we were going to have this conversation about integrity and I was just writing a couple of notes but I was just thinking wow how do I actually know I was trying to trace back how I knew that you to both operate under such Integrity I was going to ask but it felt like I'd be fishing for a compliment but I was curious why did you pick this for us that's funny yeah well like you said it's not a personality trait I don't think so it's it's something that and I mean we can Google it if we want to hear Webster's definition but for me I think because we had an opportunity to be in in in close quarters for such a long period of time and when you are operating closely with somebody you can see their daytoday their their struggles and their successes and I think because you can see them suffering through it yeah yeah and struggling to make a right decision when another person would just have long Let It Go but just to see the that your students of life that you're students of the Lord that you're continuously passionate and chased to make sure that you're walking in the way yeah it's just it's really yeah so that was my answer I was trying to pinpoint was there a moment are you having flashbacks to that season when we got close to Justin and Megan Rosalez it was I mean in the months following the start of Co it was when we were engaged trying to get married we got in this big car accident Colin ends up in the hospital for something like oh I'm having flashbacks to that was it was rough season that was a crazy one so why do you think Colin why did you why walk in Integrity I think there's a humility that comes with living a life of Integrity because I don't think Integrity is always self-serving yeah I think in Integrity most of the time is it can look like putting other interests above your own it can look like what is the best decision what is the best choice what is the best way to Steward this circumstance even if I'm not the one gaining the most out of it what if it's the person next to me what if it's in that accent you know the compassion have I man what was the other person doing I think Integrity sees all sides of the story even if it's not always serving self- serving to you yeah but I think it takes humility to walk in that I think it takes it takes knowing yourself I think there's an element of Integrity with and I think Integrity is interesting because I think it can look different for other people depending on what you believe to be right I think there's an element of like righteousness and and moral beliefs where what I believe to be right in the S situation may be different than what you believe to be right Megan and so I think that's where it can be interesting but I think where I hold myself to a high level of Integrity is am I being true to who I am am I being true to who I know that God has called me to be in this situation I think it's just showing up with a sense of being true to who I am and not being something that I'm not or or not taking the the easy way out but I think there's there's something to showing up and being true to who you are but I think Integrity is interesting because I don't always think it can look the same for everyone depending on what you believe to be right but I do think there's an element of Integrity it's like man what do I believe to be right what do you believe to be right Cammy what do you believe to be be right Megan and do you live your life according to that yeah and that's why I said I think Integrity for me is a compass in which I make my decisions and I choose to live my life it really does point me in that direction when you said that it reminded me of verse that I couldn't think of so I just Googled it but it I think your spot on Proverbs 11:3 says the Integrity of the upright guides them but the Unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity which is double-mindedness deceitfulness right so but the Integrity of the upright gu them reminds me of your compass right like yeah when in doubt it it will be the thing that points to your next step and I I think you said humility but I think it's also kind of a a lifestyle of surrender saying God if I'm off correct me like I'm going to follow this what I believe is right and giving my whole self to it if I am wrong I trust that you will guide me in the right direction but the Integrity of the upright guides them it just a compass and I I think that's great too I mean if you just think of a practical example of what it looks like to live a life of Integrity I know I talked about how it can look different for everyone but when you think of like the workplace or a coworker the way that you treat people it's not different for everyone like you know when you're being kind to somebody and you know when you're blatantly choosing to be rude to me living a life of Integrity would be you know what I'm going to choose to treat you with kindness and respect even though you wronged me even though I feel like this situation is unfair living of a life of Integrity is choosing the higher ground it's choosing to do the thing that you know is right regardless of whether or not you feel like you deserve it because you know it's it's the that's hard because you know it's the right thing to do but especially in the workplace or in relationships you know when someone's mean to you our human nature is to be mean back or but that's not always or at least Cut Her Off cut off cut her get them out of here but I do I think sometimes living a life of Integrity is choosing to live your life with kindness and respect and honesty regardless of what the situation calls for so you guys have provided really really good answers I feel like I need to sit in that for about a week so we can reconvene part two we could reconvene all right so one of the other things we talk about in in regards to Integrity is the sign stealing situation someone's got to explain this to me I don't understand so that is a great a example of how to not live with Integrity oh my God okay because I was confused now for those of you who don't follow football everyone follows football now because of Taylor Swift I don't particularly follow football all right here for Travis Kelsey and T Swift here for it even Taylor Swift can't get Cammy to like football I mean I thought that the line was going to be crossed there to be honest you know we'll see if we get there you have the rest of the season to think about it okay and the playoffs are coming she won't she won't she won't get there Dy we're working on it now I know what a tight end does maybe one day I did my research yeah he is who is this Kelsey guy yeah he's a tight end he's a tight end he is one of the best in uh NFL history all right so who's out here see sign okay so I watch NFL I don't know a darn thing about College however sometimes when I'm watching my NFL news the stinking College news will interfere so when it gets stay in your lane yeah I'm say this has been a big story well I am offended because I purposefully do not watch college and I have my reasons I'll explain them later but I don't watch it because I have standards and that's the bottom line so when I'm watching NFL news I expect to hear NFL news okay so when you interrupt my NFL news with a college story it better be good so here's what they did they interrupted the story and they said so and so is a coach for a college team and he's being accused of sign stealing to which I thought how dumb why would someone steal a sign because you know fans have signs go Tigers why would someone Ste practical a sign it makes zero sense and even if you did steal a sign who freaking cares nobody cares don't put it on your news do you not have a job to do did you you had no time okay was there no better news to share interrupting my NFL news anyway so Colin um here's what happened after that yeah tell me I found out because I was I was cutting my dad's hair and and everyone knows I have to cut everybody's hair great time to watch the news so I'm cutting my dad's hair and he informs me did you hear about the sign stealing and I said yes and frankly I don't understand it like what signs are they stealing like because I'm thinking go Tigers like a normal person yeah like me which is a normal person go go team score the touchdown yeah again can't understand why and he says no he was cheating he was straight up cheating so Colin you're the only one in this room who understands what the heck is going on so please explain it to us so that we can make an educated decision on the integ of said coach well this so-called team and Coach is one of the biggest schools in the country with the Michigan Wolverines okay and they are they're not just like another team they're they are the number two ranked team in the nation right now okay so they're really good they're really good fun fact their stadium is the biggest stadium in the country fun fact over just knows this over 990,000 people can that did Taylor have do a concert there she should that would be a big concert but their coach was accused of sign ceiling again Megan you already referenced it is not an actual sign but in football a form of communication is signs it's making language it's a form of communication now what Michigan was doing is they were studying the other team signals so it's like a signal whether signals hand signals or even if they even if they throw up a sign it everything means something and so what they were doing is they were studying other team signs or signals and seeing what play or what difference was run because of those certain signs so that what Michigan was doing is sneaky they learned the signals and they learned the signs and then they would audible their plays or make adjustments to either benefit them or to stop the offense from making moves and so basically yes they were cheating I'm beside myself it's essentially like looking at the study guide while you're taking the test is essentially what what they were doing and so before we throw this man in prison though can I play Devil's Advocate I'm so mad I don't know if you can go ahead is he not just making really good observations well here's the thing I'm not I'm not kidding right this is what sparked more drama is the coach is claiming he knew nothing about it it was happening with his assistance with the people underneath him under that were the ones doing so does that regardless as the leader I think you got to just take the you got take the ownersh right but is that are they not just making good observations and prepping their people well again that's it's cheating that's that's not I mean that takes the rules okay yes or no is it in the rule book you're not allowed to do it yes or no I mean we could get the rule book out I should have I should have researched that before you should have known the ru but if we're if we're talking about the Integrity of the game cheating does take away from the Purity and integrity of the game which is hey you have your game plan they have theirs and you play the game and you make adjustments okay well the answer to that question is going to I'm just telling you here's the thing here's the thing about me okay I'm going to follow the rules however I believe there are times to break the rules I'm with you and if if someone is feeling threatened or unsafe or whatever like I'm going to break the rules there's just time and a place crap B sure we've all done it uh there's a time and place for it right sure some it just depends on the situation okay the next thing though about that is if it isn't the rules and it says you can't go and copy the signs then you can't copy that's I mean cheating is cheating if it says you can't do it you can't do it however if you're doing really to cammy's point if you're doing really good coaching all the power to you baby that's all I got to say all the power to you all right now I have one more thing yeah there's so many problems the coach got it got a three- game suspension because of his alleged right so he didn't admit any wrongdoing so let me ask you this if you're on the field and this might be too much in the in the gritty but if you're the okay so cam you're the coach this going to take me a long time to mentally get there if I am a football coach I believe you can do it of a successful college football team well second of all if you're so successful well yeah you're cheating how hard is that that a't hard anybody could do that I can be the most successful anything win if I'm cheating every day okay all right let me just let me calm down all right all right so you're the coach and you have a team and then you have assistant coaches so you're telling me that you're on the field and you don't notice that the calls are being changed based off of the hand signals like you don't notice that you just have no idea you're not in charge of a play calling so you have no idea is that even reasonable it's a good question because I have very little wish you guys could see to the reality of being on the side of a field where calls are being you know made and here's the one gut reaction that do have and then I will allow you guys to debate this topic because you know more than I do my thought is if you're the head coach no matter what your assistant coaches are doing say it again girl and if it's happening for if there's more than one allegation at some point you are responsible at some point so if there's cheating involved whether or not you did it what is the culture around that saying that's okay to like what is your priority why why is this the strategy like what ultimately is the goal where is the open door o and let me add you are in charge of kids shaping who are in college who then some of them will they're either going to go into their careers and expect that cheating is totally Norm or for some it is unfortunately for some it is and and and then let's talk about it so we got the people that we've surrounded ourselves with are cheaters and that's the environment that he has created not to mention do you know how many times this dud has been accused of cheating so but like you're going to throw his assistant coach under the boat and then right like why or under the bus not the boat sorry I Dr on a boat no throw them under if you throw your assistant coach under the bus mhm and move on I'm like either take take it for your coach or fire your assistant like I something's wrong that's my only strong feeling sign ceiling is not a direct violation and NCAA rules but space scouting I'm so mad but scouting the other person's teams through electronic equipment and and studying their signs is oh so they did that though a drone that is what the allegation is is that they were not they were videoing the other team signs and studying them so that so yes that would technically be a violation of NCAA rules so yes they were that's what they're being investigated for cheating MH now if they were smart here's what they would do not that yes thank you and end podcast okay if they were smart what they would do because there are people in the world who can just see stuff and automatically remember so if they were smart they would find that guy and send him the photographic memory yes there you go and then and that's what I'm talking about you're just you're just giving away strategies now well because I want to win and I will find a way but I'm not a rule breaker yeah well so I I know how to push the envelope though that's true but this ain't the way I'd rather win the game the right way than win it the wrong way yeah and if they want to go ahead and take what I did there you go and make a new rule then so be it there you go I do think though that that is it's the gray space where Integrity is tested and where It ultimately matters right it's easy to and the plac you're immediately rewarded for it do you lose a game by doing it the right way when you could win it by cheating a little bit ah well and the chance of them still winning the game without doing that were likely like they can still win games without I don't know if you he's been already accused of cheating do you know how many times probably several so I'm just saying if you cheat for a decade you're just a cheater at that point you're just a cheater so you don't really have a winning team you have a winning cheat system you know how to you know how to cheat your way to the top and who has allowed this on top of that who has allowed I don't see a version of this story where Jim Harbaugh didn't know that this was happening or that he was unaware of it or that the team was unaware of it I just don't see a version where that's possible I think it's a culture thing at that point yeah so my most mad and I I swear I'm going to be done complaining about it but my most mad part of this leadership failure is that I realize these are not 10-year-old but they are still young impressionable men and some of them are going to be they're going to end up in the NFL which they're going to make lots and lots of money they're going to have lots and lots of opportunities to break bad and heaven forbid we can't just provide them one God blessed example of a good human being we just can't that's true because what if they didn't have good parents what if they didn't have a good role model what if they don't have that and then you true are the only person okay well maybe they can learn from someone else's failures failures I mean we would hope so and who knows about that coach's role model and their parents and their like it's the system that's what I'm saying he's a brother in the NFL so they have the same parents that goes back to your question is integrity caught or taught or taught I don't know we may never know we may never know but I think that for sure that was a it's a culture thing it needs to be addressed and you just got to hope that the the players on that team have more Integrity to not repeat a you know have a Perpetual cycle and and I am curious right like we'll see where all this lands but could this not be a thing that makes some of them catch it and I think at some point all of us have to make a hard decision about the kind of person the kind of leader coach athlete influencer boss wife husband that we want to be yeah we have to make the hard one so we're all going to decide differently we're all going to show up to it differently mhm that's a super personal decision it comes down to a choice you have a choice you have a choice we have a choice to end this podcast you you guys did such a great job thanks thanks for having us on thanks for coming you're welcome I I'm glad this is recorded because I have to go back and teach myself what to do with my Integrity from what I from everything that y' said all right so that's it for today hey thank you everyone for listening in today and hey do you want to be a part of the show call or text 864 6191 1683 to share your story and we will get into it about what the leader should have done differently and calling all bosses would you share this episode with someone you think would like it our goal is to inspire and equip others but we can't do it without you and listen friend we know it's not easy but remember that whatever it is you're walking through you are certainly not alone and together we can make the world a better place to work thanks for listening team take care and see you next week book